Hussman Bangs The Bearish Drum. No One Listens.

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From Investment Intelligencer

John Hussman of the Hussman Funds keeps banging away on the impending-market-crash drum, this time in a long interview with Kathryn Welling of welling@weeden.  Hussman’s points won’t come as any surprise to Investment Intelligencer readers, but they are so rare in the larger world of market commentary today that I’ll keep repeating them.  (And when the market doubles from here and stays there for a generation, you can throw both of us to the dogs):

  • The market is trading at 19-times "peak earnings" (Hussman’s equivalent of the cyclically adjusted P/E).  The common bullish arguments that the market’s P/E is 15-times (or less) have no basis in theory or historical fact.  Today’s valuation is similar to that of many historical peaks, such as 1929.
  • Profit margins have always been mean-reverting, and none of the theories floated to suggest that they will forever remain at today’s nosebleed level of 50% above their historical average make sense (and the theories are only floated by a handful of thoughtful bulls–the rest don’t even bother to try to account for today’s profit margins).
  • The long-term profit growth trend line in the U.S. is 6% a year.  The reason everyone thinks (and says) profits will grow at least 10% a year forever is because profits have grown that fast for five years (a.k.a., eternity).
  • "Fair value" on the S&P is at least 40% below current levels.
  • The market might go up another 10% before it has a typical 10% correction.  From now until after this 10% correction, however, the market will have been outperformed by T-bills.

Hussman does not go so far as to make a forecast, but, for him, he comes awfully close.  And given these data points, who can blame him?

After having lived through the 1990s, and been on the opposite side of this argument, I can confirm that long-term valuation metrics are worthless at predicting near-term market movements: In the late 1990s, bears like Hussman were not "cautious," they were "wrong," and year-after-year they were carried out on stretchers.  This said, after the market finally collapsed, they looked pretty good.

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Douglas A. McIntyre is the co-founder, chief executive officer and editor in chief of 24/7 Wall St. and 24/7 Tempo. He has held these jobs since 2006.

McIntyre has written thousands of articles for 24/7 Wall St. He is an expert on corporate finance, the automotive industry, media companies and international finance. He has edited articles on national demographics, sports, personal income and travel.

His work has been quoted or mentioned in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Time, The New Yorker, HuffPost USA Today, Business Insider, Yahoo, AOL, MarketWatch, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, New York Post, Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Guardian and many other major publications. McIntyre has been a guest on CNBC, the BBC and television and radio stations across the country.

A magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College, McIntyre also was president of The Harvard Advocate. Founded in 1866, the Advocate is the oldest college publication in the United States.

TheStreet.com, Comps.com and Edgar Online are some of the public companies for which McIntyre served on the board of directors. He was a Vicinity Corporation board member when the company was sold to Microsoft in 2002. He served on the audit committees of some of these companies.

McIntyre has been the CEO of FutureSource, a provider of trading terminals and news to commodities and futures traders. He was president of Switchboard, the online phone directory company. He served as chairman and CEO of On2 Technologies, the video compression company that provided video compression software for Adobe’s Flash. Google bought On2 in 2009.

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