Suddenly, The Talk Turns To Depression

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AngrybearA number of seemingly unrelated pieces of news in the last day showed that several high profile people and organizations are at least considering the idea that the global economy could slip into a depression.

It was a bad day for anyone hoping to see stimulus money put to work creating jobs quickly. Those for and against the Administration’s plan to right the economy spent the day shooting mortar rounds at one another in the Capitol.

In the financial sector, rumors that Bank of America (BAC) might be nationalized nearly turned shares in the firm into a penny stock.

In remarks made in New York, GE (GE) CEO Jeff Immelt said that the economy was in as bad a shape as at any time since the 1974 recession. If it should get worse, he remarked, “Once you break through ’74-’75, you don’t stop ’til you get to 1929.” At almost the same hour, Bill Gross, the undisputed king of the fixed income world and chief of investments at Pimco stated “the U.S. may slump into a `mini depression’ unless policy makers spend trillions of dollars to spur growth.” He did not make the distinction between a “mini depression” and one of normal size but his comments were, nonetheless, alarming.

The IMF, not wanting to be left out, then posted a harsh warning about the condition of the global credit and financial systems, According to Reuters, “The International Monetary Fund warned of a more severe economic downturn unless governments move aggressively to fix the financial system by removing troubled assets from banks’ books.” Since many policy makers believe that moving toxic financial assets into “bad banks” is not a solution to the build-up of bad paper on financial firms’ balance sheets, the IMF’s suggestion may go unheeded.

In just the last day or so, the volume and velocity of the discourse have about whether the economy can recover from its sharp drop or whether the fall will be inexorable and stop when the value of goods and services in relation to income is at a 100-year-low.

The most troubling aspects of these recent comments is that they do not come from the fringe of the world of business and economics. They have become part of the comments and dialog of some of the most powerful people in finance and industry.

This goes to show that nearly everyone has gone from being nervous to terrified.

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About the Author Douglas A. McIntyre →

Douglas A. McIntyre is the co-founder, chief executive officer and editor in chief of 24/7 Wall St. and 24/7 Tempo. He has held these jobs since 2006.

McIntyre has written thousands of articles for 24/7 Wall St. He is an expert on corporate finance, the automotive industry, media companies and international finance. He has edited articles on national demographics, sports, personal income and travel.

His work has been quoted or mentioned in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Time, The New Yorker, HuffPost USA Today, Business Insider, Yahoo, AOL, MarketWatch, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, New York Post, Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Guardian and many other major publications. McIntyre has been a guest on CNBC, the BBC and television and radio stations across the country.

A magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College, McIntyre also was president of The Harvard Advocate. Founded in 1866, the Advocate is the oldest college publication in the United States.

TheStreet.com, Comps.com and Edgar Online are some of the public companies for which McIntyre served on the board of directors. He was a Vicinity Corporation board member when the company was sold to Microsoft in 2002. He served on the audit committees of some of these companies.

McIntyre has been the CEO of FutureSource, a provider of trading terminals and news to commodities and futures traders. He was president of Switchboard, the online phone directory company. He served as chairman and CEO of On2 Technologies, the video compression company that provided video compression software for Adobe’s Flash. Google bought On2 in 2009.

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