Corporate Profits: Six Quarter Decline With Worst To Come (AAPL)(C)(XOM)(TWX)

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Angrybear_2A Bloomberg review of the S&P 500 stocks shows that the fourth quarter of 2008 will probably be the sixth quarter of declining earnings. According to the news service, "Fourth-quarter profit at companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index may have dropped an average of 11.9 percent from a year earlier."

That may be a useful look at the past, but the movement of the stock market is going to be based on expectations for the first quarter of 2009.

It is unlikely that profits at retail, financial, and automotive shares will recover. That leaves energy, tech, media, and defense earnings to help the market higher. Numbers at places like Citigroup (C), AIG (AIG), and Fannie Mae (FNM) are not going to get better

Energy numbers are going to be dependent to a large extent on oil and gas prices. If geopolitical conflicts move crude higher or OPEC makes more sharp productions cuts, earnings could improve, but those things can’t be counted on. Don’t look for better figures from Exxon Mobil (XOM) or Valero (VLO)

Technology earnings depend on a recovery in consumer spending and an upswing in business IT investments. With unemployment growing and credit hard to come by, that is not likely. Microsoft (MSFT), Cisco (CSCO), Intel (INTC), Google (GOOG), and Apple (AAPL) are in for rough times.

Media earnings will continue to be hampered by falling advertising demand. Don’t watch for better earnings out of Time Warner (TWX), CBS (CBS), of Viacom (VIA).

That leave defense. Military conflicts overseas could help here, but the new Administration and Congress do not appear to be the hawkish types.

In other words, look for several more quarters of falling S&P 500 earnings.

Douglas A. McIntyre

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About the Author Douglas A. McIntyre →

Douglas A. McIntyre is the co-founder, chief executive officer and editor in chief of 24/7 Wall St. and 24/7 Tempo. He has held these jobs since 2006.

McIntyre has written thousands of articles for 24/7 Wall St. He is an expert on corporate finance, the automotive industry, media companies and international finance. He has edited articles on national demographics, sports, personal income and travel.

His work has been quoted or mentioned in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Time, The New Yorker, HuffPost USA Today, Business Insider, Yahoo, AOL, MarketWatch, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, New York Post, Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Guardian and many other major publications. McIntyre has been a guest on CNBC, the BBC and television and radio stations across the country.

A magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College, McIntyre also was president of The Harvard Advocate. Founded in 1866, the Advocate is the oldest college publication in the United States.

TheStreet.com, Comps.com and Edgar Online are some of the public companies for which McIntyre served on the board of directors. He was a Vicinity Corporation board member when the company was sold to Microsoft in 2002. He served on the audit committees of some of these companies.

McIntyre has been the CEO of FutureSource, a provider of trading terminals and news to commodities and futures traders. He was president of Switchboard, the online phone directory company. He served as chairman and CEO of On2 Technologies, the video compression company that provided video compression software for Adobe’s Flash. Google bought On2 in 2009.

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