Q3 GDP Revisions Final Failure

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Burning_money_picThe final revision for Q3 GDP is still indicative of a recession.  The NBER already declared a recession was in effect since last December, but this was the first quarter to actually show negative real GDP.  The final revision came in unchanged at -0.5%, and the estimate was -0.6%.

Corporate profits after taxes were revised lower to -3.2% to roughly$1.3 trillion in the July through September Q3 period.  Consumerspending was revised to a tad worse -3.8% in Q3, which accounted for2.75 points of the drop in GDP.  Durable goods spending by consumerswas down 14.8%.

You can look further and further into the numbers, but if you want adecent holiday season we’d advise you not to.  That was also just thereal start of it to show up in the numbers, so what lies ahead shouldreflect the far-worse numbers we have been seeing over the last 75 daysor so.

What is far more important than revision after revision is what isexpected for Q4.  We have heard that estimates are running as deep as-6% from many.  There will be many changes to those numbers,particularly after we start to see actual earnings in mid-January fromkey companies.

The new acronym for "GDP" during the holiday season is, "Got Depression Presents?"

Jon C. Ogg
December 23, 2008

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Douglas A. McIntyre is the co-founder, chief executive officer and editor in chief of 24/7 Wall St. and 24/7 Tempo. He has held these jobs since 2006.

McIntyre has written thousands of articles for 24/7 Wall St. He is an expert on corporate finance, the automotive industry, media companies and international finance. He has edited articles on national demographics, sports, personal income and travel.

His work has been quoted or mentioned in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Time, The New Yorker, HuffPost USA Today, Business Insider, Yahoo, AOL, MarketWatch, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, New York Post, Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Guardian and many other major publications. McIntyre has been a guest on CNBC, the BBC and television and radio stations across the country.

A magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College, McIntyre also was president of The Harvard Advocate. Founded in 1866, the Advocate is the oldest college publication in the United States.

TheStreet.com, Comps.com and Edgar Online are some of the public companies for which McIntyre served on the board of directors. He was a Vicinity Corporation board member when the company was sold to Microsoft in 2002. He served on the audit committees of some of these companies.

McIntyre has been the CEO of FutureSource, a provider of trading terminals and news to commodities and futures traders. He was president of Switchboard, the online phone directory company. He served as chairman and CEO of On2 Technologies, the video compression company that provided video compression software for Adobe’s Flash. Google bought On2 in 2009.

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