DuPont Losses Reach Staggering Proportion (DD)

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Burning_money_picIf you thought that the chemicals and materials sector was immune from the recession, guess again.  This morning DJIA component DuPont (NYSE: DD) posted a loss for the Q4-2008 period.  It might not be a surprise that business slowed to a crawl with sales volumes off roughly 20%, but the outlook here is where it gets interesting.

DuPont’s loss here is staggering at $629 million.  The company’snon-GAAP earnings came in at -$0.28 EPS and its net loss includingitems came to -$0.70 EPS.  According to Thomson Reuters (First Call),analysts were looking for a loss of -$0.24 EPS.  The giant also postedmore than a $1.1 billion drop in revenues year over year to $5.82billion, which is also worse than the First Call consensus of $6.17billion.

DuPont did note the global recession as going through 2009, and that isthe launch pad for lower expectations.  For the quarter ahead thecompany sees earnings of $0.50 to $0.70 EPS and First Call hasestimates at $0.81 EPS for the coming quarter, so if the rough economyslows even further the company will be way under target.  The companysees US sales down 15% and volumes down about 22%.

The earnings slash gets even worse for all of 2009 where it loweredguidance to $2.00 to $2.50 EPS.  Its prior earnings guidance range was$2.25 to $2.75 EPS.  The analyst community had already ratcheted downthose targets sharply to $2.24, which was down from $2.37 a month agoand down sharply from the estimate of $3.22 just a quarter ago.

The company has already been very far behind Wall Street in itsguidance targets.  It is targeting $730 million in fixed-cost reductionin 2009, but it sees about $1 billion less in working capital as well.There is still a deficit there, and the risk is one where the companycould have to catch up to analysts even more.  When the community seeshow the performance so far has been, you might as well expect theforward numbers and targets to come down from analysts.

What if the company cannot cut its costs as fast as business is slowing?  Losses, or lower earnings, could become a trend rather than a one-off quarter. That forward P/E ratio of "roughly 10" may very soon become very cloudy.  At best.

Jon C. Ogg
January 27, 2009

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Douglas A. McIntyre is the co-founder, chief executive officer and editor in chief of 24/7 Wall St. and 24/7 Tempo. He has held these jobs since 2006.

McIntyre has written thousands of articles for 24/7 Wall St. He is an expert on corporate finance, the automotive industry, media companies and international finance. He has edited articles on national demographics, sports, personal income and travel.

His work has been quoted or mentioned in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, Time, The New Yorker, HuffPost USA Today, Business Insider, Yahoo, AOL, MarketWatch, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, New York Post, Chicago Tribune, Forbes, The Guardian and many other major publications. McIntyre has been a guest on CNBC, the BBC and television and radio stations across the country.

A magna cum laude graduate of Harvard College, McIntyre also was president of The Harvard Advocate. Founded in 1866, the Advocate is the oldest college publication in the United States.

TheStreet.com, Comps.com and Edgar Online are some of the public companies for which McIntyre served on the board of directors. He was a Vicinity Corporation board member when the company was sold to Microsoft in 2002. He served on the audit committees of some of these companies.

McIntyre has been the CEO of FutureSource, a provider of trading terminals and news to commodities and futures traders. He was president of Switchboard, the online phone directory company. He served as chairman and CEO of On2 Technologies, the video compression company that provided video compression software for Adobe’s Flash. Google bought On2 in 2009.

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